North Carolina Gov. Roy Cooper on Trump and the Midterm Elections

President Biden’s re-election prospects are better after the midterms, the Trump-led ticket won’t win North Carolina again in 2024, and Democrats defied expectations as the party’s governors took the lead, according to North Carolina Gov. Roy Cooper. according.

“I expect them,” Cooper said of a Biden bid for re-election, in an appearance on “The Takeout” podcast. “I just talked to him a few days ago. I support him. He’s been a wonderful president. I’ve told him I’ll try to win North Carolina. If he decides, I’m 100 for him.” %.”

Trump won North Carolina in 2016 and 2020, but Cooper, head of the Democratic Governors Association, doesn’t see the former president winning his state again in 2024, should he be the GOP nominee.

“No, he won’t,” Cooper said. “I ran for governor in 2016 and 2020, and I won at the same time that Trump won North Carolina. I know the people here. I don’t believe North Carolina will make that mistake again.”

Cooper said Democratic governors defied mid-term expectations by campaigning on the achievements of the Biden presidency and suggested it is a roadmap for 2024.

“The results achieved in Washington have helped across America,” Cooper said. “I believe that people are deeply concerned about another Trump president or someone like Trump. And that possibility is very, very real. We know that the president has the power to stop Trump in his tracks.” There’s a track record of being able to. He’ll have a track record of four years of success. One thing I’ve known about Joe Biden for a long time, you can never count him. He’s always got a way to get there. Finds where he wants to go.”

Cooper described the landslide defeats of Democrat Charlie Crist in Florida and Beto O’Rourke in Texas as “disappointing,” a reflection of a harsh political climate fueled by inflation, crime and Biden’s low approval rating.

“It was going to be a year for headwinds for the Democratic candidates,” Cooper said. “And one of the hardest things to do in politics is defeat the incumbent governor.”

Cooper acknowledged the importance of Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis’ victory in Florida by winning the historic Democratic stronghold of Miami-Dade County as part of a 19-point defeat. But he still expects Democrats to still win the state’s 30 electoral votes in 2024.

“I believe Florida can still play for Democrats in the right year with the right candidates,” Cooper said. “We definitely don’t want to write it.”

Cooper also called DeSantis “divisive.”

“This is extreme politics playing on people’s fears,” Cooper said. “The Republicans have always been able to do this, playing on people’s fears. What we have to do is take those issues forward. Education. The classroom is not the place for culture wars. We need to teach science and history. And math and reading, and we don’t have to put our kids in the middle of it. I think we can move on.”

Cooper said Democrats still stumble when it comes to interpreting their priorities and achievements. He did not disagree with California Gov. Gavin Newsom, who told CBS News before midterm that Democrats were “crushing on the narrative.”

“Democrats are very good at work,” Cooper said. “We’re not always good at the way we talk about them. President Biden will tell you this himself. Working hard on it, fighting each other on how to do it. That’s where the conflict is. ( (media) focus on intra-party there is controversy about how we are going to accomplish things. We need to keep working on the way we talk about things.”

He also pointed out that Democratic governors had their best midterm elections since 1986 and credited activism with voter concern about abortion access.

“We understood that voters were not one-dimensional,” Cooper said. “We understood that with this terrifying U.S. Supreme Court decision, which took away women’s reproductive freedoms for five decades, that now state capitals and state legislatures were actually going to determine a constitutional right. Your Zip The code shouldn’t affect your constitutional rights, but that’s where we are now.”


  • Democrats lose governorship in Florida and Texas: “One of the hardest things to do in politics is to defeat the incumbent governor. Governors do so much work that affect people’s daily lives. And even if you’re not such a good governor, root for one.” It’s hard to overthrow. And this was not the time for the Democrats to succeed in Texas and Florida. But they’re still on the Democratic map. We have to go in and look at ways we can improve the processes there. I’m the expert Don’t claim to be how we do it, but I know those two states are very important to our country. There are a lot of people living there. We have to keep working to make sure that we live in both of those states. to make some inroads.”
  • The recipe for successful democratic governors: “I think the Democratic governors this time did a better job of telling people what they were doing to influence important issues. And it was multi-pronged. We listened to a lot of pundits because these were swing states. The election would swing in some way or the other. The fact of the matter was that Democratic governors remained steadfast about what they were doing and what message they were conveying—while impacting the cost to the families they cared about. But it was also a reminder to people that, hey, democracy is on the verge. And we know people’s abortion rights will end if we don’t elect a Democratic governor. The combination of those issues won the day for Democratic governors. . “
  • Democrats who secured seats in the state legislature: “We haven’t paid enough attention to state governors, state races, and state legislative races for decades. Republicans have noticed this for decades and have gained control in many states where they shouldn’t. I think Democrats are waking up to that, especially when President Trump came along, the Supreme Court started taking away rights. Now we have more issues that are being decided at the state level. This time I think the Democrats have won the state paid more attention to what’s happening in the U.S. governors and the state legislature. And I hope we Democrats have learned that this is where we need to maintain investment and attention, that the U.S. Supreme Court will last a long time. We don’t know what is happening on the street. About individual rights and liberties that can be decided at the state level, who is the governor, who is the state legislature in those states, it is for the common people means a lot.
  • Mid-term impact on Trump and the GOP: “I’ve given up trying to predict what happens in the Republican Party. You know, I work closely with Republicans in North Carolina. I think people ask us to try and work together on solutions.” But since President Trump was elected, a lot of Republicans have told us that they prefer an autocracy as long as their man is in charge. And President Trump, the candidates they’ve chosen Backed off, he had a bad night, no question about it. The point is, is this going to be a transfer for Trump a bad thing. As far as Governor DeSantis will give him a run in the primary , I don’t know. I fully expect Trump to run. DeSantis has an uphill battle because it will be difficult to remove those people because not enough Republicans had the courage to stand before him. They didn’t. We Will see if that changes.”

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